While I do believe that many cities (looking at you, Los Angeles) are less bike-friendly than others, I’m hopeful that it will change. Although the Garmin Varia attachment looks like GoPro, it’s subtly different. Great review but need to know if you have figured out if its possible to get the ION 200 RT head light and the Garmin Varia Radar tail light both paired to a Garmin 1030. Bontrager has a wireless remote called the Transmitr Wireless Remote that you can mount on the bar to control them. I would like to support DCR and enjoy ad-free DC Rainmaker ($20 per year). Yes you need to be in full manual mode which most cameras don’t do and true, it won’t be a good shot to see how one individual light will look. You should aim to be as visible a motorbike. I come home from a long run and find my bike, in the closet, with a blinking light! Marcos, at the Trek Store near my house (I’m near Los Angeles) They got both the front and rear lights in this past Thursday, Marcos, I believe they are also available now on the Trek website , I live in Brazil and Trek doesn’t allow shipping to Brazil neither to an US address using a brazilian credit card … Modern USB ports on computers usually can deliver quite high currents. Anything and everything you see photographically in any light review is 100% based on the settings the camera person selected. I have the Ion 800 RT and Flare RT (old one with rounded bottom pictured above) and they are excellent for be-seen visibility. Personally I kinda like the design – nobody even knows they’re there when not powered on. Medium – 100 lumens for 3 hours Not great when it’s pitch black on a busy road. A narrow pencil beam would be give you greater distance with less lumens and less power consumption. I can’t seem to find a way to do that even with the Garmin Connect app on my android phone.. The Ion 200 RT and Flare RT are ANT+ and Bluetooth compatible, so they can be controlled with a Garmin or any of Bontrager's ANT+ enabled devices. Hi I guess we needed a $250 fan instead. The Ion 200 RT packs the same technology into a 200 … Well, meanwhile I spotted the answer to my question in the german “velomobilforum.de”: You have to turn off ‘wireless communication’. It’s still a perfectly good unit, AFAIK. Which make me think it’s still a must-have, even 18 months after the release. @Pablo: You can manually cycle through the different light modes or even turn the light off while connected. The main LED will flash once at 8 seconds, and again at 15 seconds. The units come with little bite-sized mounts in the box, which you saw in the unboxing section. We feature a small staff of savvy, experienced writers who love to review outdoor gear. I second that. The point is not whether somebody complained but whether the comment is valid or not! just two different light colors/brightness levels. Bontrager is hardly new to the connected lights game; in fact, they were actually the first company to introduce such connected lights using the ANT+ device profile (Garmin then followed a bit later), back in April of 2015. No problem, here's the platform I use - you can too! If that’s the case (but certainly not saying my choices aren’t good for women), and you just want to see a different gear junkies “picks”, check out The Girl’s 2018 Gear Guide too. I’d rate them as follows: Day Riding Anywhere: In this situation, it’s about others seeing you, the lights provide no visible extra light on the ground on a sunny day. That gets you three $1.50 Costco hotdogs + soda combos…just sayin’. If you start a workout in trainer mode (with the trigger set to timer start), they do NOT turn on. For additional configuration, control, and firmware update capability, download our iOS App from the App Store or Android App from Google Play. If you’re new around these parts, here’s the long version of my story. My local Trek dealer sold me the little piece (GoPro adapter) to connect the Ion 800 RT under my K-Edge XL combo. I did almost the same thing, using the K-Edge GoPro adaptor, and then attaching the light to it with the High Ion mount. If you’re trying to decide which unit to buy – check out my in-depth reviews section. I probably had a few minutes of getting things setup before I started my ride (where the lights were on), but not much more than that. It sits there waiting for the command to turn on and won’t last for more than one day. I can’t find a way to set up or change the mode of the lights. The all-new Flare As an aside, I have trouble turning off both lights when they are connect with my Edge 130 Light Network. NIce thank you for this review. Bontrager Ion 200 RT/Flare RT Light Set. It’s as simple as that. The FlareRT is perfect for me in summer, but imperfect because it failed me so quickly (ie- mine died at 14 months – Bontrager did not respond to my RMA request). I note that one of your observations is “…one very distinct downside to this setup is that if you’re on the trainer indoors the lights will automatically turn-on”. You can see the visible light on the ground from the Ion 200 RT though in front of me. Can I turn the bluetooth off and on ? Use Backcountry.com or Competitive Cyclist with either the coupon code DCRAINMAKER for first time users saving 15% on applicable products. Or does it just shine backwards? Not sure I’d leave my bike that this is on anywhere I’d be worried about the light. Alternatively, for everything else on the planet, simply buy your goods from Amazon via the link below and I get a tiny bit back as an Amazon Associate. Night Steady – 5 lumens for 13.5 Hours. Agree with Jay – that Garmin person doesn’t know what they’re talking about. The light slides into the mount in the proper direction with a solid click. Oh, and the Garmin ‘Light Network’? Here’s a quick comparison chart I whipped up with the main offerings from each company. My Garmin 520 has been having the same battery life drain issue recently. I will be looking for these at my local shop. Seems like these are aimed straight forward or straight back. I use a Roam and the Fenix while riding. The Bontrager Ion RT is very similar to the company’s Ion 700, which we reviewed last year (check out our review of the Bontrager Ion 700 here). I’m from out of the country and will be visiting the US, what’s the best triathlon shop in city XYZ? What are your least favorite countries/places? Maybe they updated the functionality since then. I try to find them, and a couple of cables, and charge them as much as I can before I use them. That’s gotta eat SOME battery right? Tested many times :/ – and always 6 hours (4,5 hours to “low energy” mode). Random messages suggesting it’s having problems. So funny story Peter. The Bontrager ConnectIQ app is a must if you’re running these lights, as Ray points out. I love the form factor / weight of the new Bontrager lights, but the Ant+ connectivity is all but useless given the rapid battery depletion in standby mode. I’ve been in high tech all my life and when I’m on the bike, I want to ride, not troubleshoot my lights. My Ion 200 RT and Flare RT dont seem to flash at all when they are off but they still turn on automatically when I start my garmin 1030+ and the LED indicator shows blue when they first turn on – but I’ve never seen it flash when they are off (I’ve only had them for 3 days). I have a few, and they are pretty good, and look like something that someone would probably take. No problem, the product comparison data is constantly updated with new products and new features added to old products! But because you have to eat your vegetables before desert, we’ll start with the boring way, which is just double-pressing the button on the top of the lights (as the manual notes: just like a mouse double-click). Serfas makes a lot of cheaper, rechargeable, and very durable lights. Of course, most internet retailers offer free shipping these days anyway. Can I set up “Bontrager Transmitr Wireless Remote Control” to DIRECTLY switch on (by single push of button) the “Bontrager Flare RT Rear Bike Light” from “OFF” mode to “flashing” mode? Enjoy, and thanks for stopping by! B) Connected to a head unit: Such as a Garmin device that can control them I am looking for a new rear light and live in NYC and ride a lot in/outside the city in PA, NJ, NY etc. It does have *some* side lighting, but it’s not much as I remember. I wish someone would PLEASE post parts that do work with GARMIN mount as I do not want to have to buy a new k-edge to make this work. If you are hoping for getting a much cheaper base model by not footing the bill for quirky little extra features like lights control that you don’t use, think again: the company will eventually want/need to make the same amount of money, in aggregate, and only a fraction of the people who would use the feature if it was included will also be willing to pay extra. The spacing of the Varia mount parts is slightly narrower than GoPro or even Garmin’s own Virb. Yeah…thus the challenge with how bike shops (in particular, manufacturer driven ones) figure out their purpose in life in 2018. Works well, but as stated, the standby status slowly kills the battery so you need to leave them plugged in. Got a Flare R which I picked up Day Steady – 25 lumens for 4.5 hours The blue light in standy (Ant+ mode) destroy the battery. https://www.rei.com › product › 152981 › bontrager-ion-200-rtflare-rt-light-set I still want one that’s more streamlined). Light and motion has LEDs aimed to the side and See Sense uses the optics of the plastic to send light out the sides. If you’ve got the units on full blast (non-blinking), it’ll last far less than differing blinking modes. I’m honestly not sure who to blame, and working with both Garmin and Trek support for multiple months now- it seems like they both understand there’s a problem, but don’t have a solution to get it fixed. It might look like the light is throwing out a fair bit of light, right? The wide-angle lens on my iPhone makes the light look bigger than it actually is. MY Edge1000 is similar. The initial iteration of the Bontrager Flare RT and Ion RT was actually quite good – and they even had a nifty remote control (still do if you want it) to control the lights. Luckily there are other low cost lights for commuting bikes. They do go dead over time. Only a 12 month warranty. It is rather frustrating that they “almost” work. They said they have no plans. Flare RT: Tiny cube rear light announced this month (this review). Charge ‘enough’ is the word for some folks. Bontrager sent over a loaner pile of the new lights to try out. The main LED will flash once at 8 seconds, and again at 15 seconds. If you want to put a red sticker atop the Ion 200 RT, more power to you and longer run time. There’s only a single button, though you can do some ultra-long hold presses to get things reset and such. Day Flash – 100 lumens for 12 hours. Maybe Bontrager has fixed this in the new Flare RT? The form factor of the larger/brighter Ion Pro RT/Ion 800 is a bit unbalanced weight wise, so that light has a tendency to aim down over time using the included stretchy mount. Any idea if Garmin is going to update the Fenix 5x software to enable light control? Someone asked about front lights and tri bikes, and I thought I should mention I mount mine about halfway down my left hand aero bar (the traffic side in the US) with the light hanging on the bottom out of the way. Others have talked about it, such as Sigma, but haven’t yet implemented it. I just wanted to add my brief experience with this line of lights. See.Sense has far more connected phone tricks as well, such as theft detection and sending data to urban planners. Whereas on bike/running paths surrounded by trees, it’s darker, but you can generally still trust that the pavement is the pavement. I aim to leave no stone unturned. I’m not a fan of connected, smart lights. I’d like to think they’d do things like free fast shipping to the nearest Trek store (perhaps they do), or such. Are you willing to review or test beta products? Hi. Are they trying to tell me something? Can these lights automatically start working when I start session from my watch? I’ll definitely get the Connect app and try that. The whole setup than the photos show. I’ll post a picture below. How can I tell when they are fully charged, without using the app on my garmin? I have the light mounted with the Blendr High Ion mount, with the mount attached to a GoPro adapter under my Garmin K-Edge mount. The Madone also came with bike-specific mounts, but that little piece was definitely in the box…. I find these connected lights all too gimmicky. I’ll poke them to get it on the compatible list. They’ve got other stem replacement kits that allow you to mix and match Garmin quarter-turn mounts and Bontrager mounts. The light sensors will auto-adjust the brightness based on outside lighting, which is good during pitch-black conditions, but not as good at dawn when I’d rather force the super-blink always. 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