Meaning that in order for a IND to run down Utica Av, Utica Av would have to be destroyed and rebuilt around the same area of the 3/4 station. The station spacing was done to keep costs down. The problem here is between these two streets one lane will have to be teared up and bus stops will have to be relocated and detoured, which messes up a lot of commuters daily travel. Two narrow staircases and one elevator connect both platforms to a small upper level mezzanine that has two public restrooms (one for men and the other for women) and leads to a bank of turnstiles. Theyll meet up down the road. With it both 2/3 trains would only go to Brooklyn College while 5 trains would serve the local stations, Nostrand Ave, Kingston Ave, and Utica Ave before turning south to Kings Plaza, while 4 trains would stay express to Utica Ave and take over service to New Lots. Now we dont want that, do we? Unusually, there are two mezzanine levels; the upper mezzanine level was closed off after a 1995 renovation, and the lower mezzanine level is actually the platform level of the unbuilt Utica Avenue line. Granted it eventually meets up with all nine of those services, just not in the big pile-up. A hybrid of 1 and 6: The el is still over roadway Past Clarendon Rd the line would split with two tracks peeling east to a new yard facility built along the LIRR Bay Ridge line (requiring land taking). This staircase leads up to a small mezzanine where there is a token booth and turnstiles. [23], The station's full-time exit is at the east end (railroad south) of the platforms. The full-time side at the eastern (railroad south) end has two staircases from each platform going up to a crossover (the western ones go up to a ramp that leads to the main fare control area), where a turnstile bank and two exit-only turnstiles provide access to and from the station. Subway, local and express station, ADA accessible. Besides, with Utica so far out it would be much better service to have express trains rather than a longer local train. and weekends the 5 doesnt go to Brooklyn. However, if such a public-private partnership could be established and developers enlisted to build the stations then a couple more could be added. It is actually located between Schenectady and Utica Avenues and the two exits lead to the middle of the block, several feet from the actual cross street. Look at the ceiling from the open platform, and at the mezzanine area at the north end. These technological limitations were shortly overcome and the only IRT line that doesnt use part of this original line is the 7 which is limited by the Steinway Tunnel. and has a much less dominating effect. The storage/layup tracks ends with bumper blocks on both ends, with a switch to the northbound express track on its west end and a switch to the southbound express track on the east end.[8][7]. [17] On August 23, 1920, the Eastern Parkway Line was extended from Atlantic Avenue to Crown HeightsUtica Avenue, with the Utica Avenue station opening at this time. Then you can continue trains on into Brooklyn. The MTA has only been making these small extensions, the last major one (affected more than 3 lines) was in 1967-1968, which changed the BB, T, TT, D, F, JJ, M, MM, and the QT, and added the QJ, B, and KK. The incident happened inside the Utica Avenue subway station in Brooklyn on Christmas Eve. Allows handicap access via one elevator instead of three. This configuration would have other benefits as the riders who are now coming from furthest away have default express trips while the 7th Ave Express-Eastern Parkway Local 2/3 trains can now have more even headways, reducing delays. Climbing the ramp to the entrance level reveals more windows and doors These doors provide access to the disused portion of the upper level mezzanine, which has steps leading to the disused portion of the intermediate level mezzanine (which in turn leads directly to the unfinished station). Despite this residents of southern and southeastern Brooklyn would continually oppose any plan that involved elevated trains (even extensions of the Nostrand Ave Line as an elevated were blocked). But the question is what is more dire, commuters coming from Wall St (with their many different subway options) or those coming from Williamsburg (with the congested L)? Crown Heights Utica Avenue Station. [16], The IRT Eastern Parkway Line was built as part of Route 12 from 1915 to 1918. Another diamond crossover, east of here, connects the southbound express track to a ramp down to the lower level. As someone wiser than I recently put it: Ultimately a project with a higher up front price tag will be an invaluable investment that will pay dividends far into the future.. Contract 2 extended the original line from City Hall in Manhattan to Atlantic Avenue in Brooklyn. Crime Statistics (PDF) Crime Statistics (Excel) Contact Information. Lower track becomes less of a climb. Look at ridership at the Crown Heights-Utica Ave station now. 7. It lets light through the middle Before the renovation of this station in 1995, it was possible to see the unfinished station from the mezzanine. The tracks are outlined by a pattern in the ceiling on top of the four trackways at the Utica Avenue station; therefore it appears that there are four trackways and two island platforms running diagonally across the ceiling in the center. Also if most people are going to midtown (which Id argue given the census data I show isnt the case) then there is nothing in the way of this with the new routing. Then a tunnel would have to be built just outside the station. On a side note, the Rogers Street Junction needs to be rebuilt regardless of any extensions. Replace the most cumbersome and unattractive of existing el structures with And this is exactly what you or I would do in their shoes. The second plan would be far cheaper but would require that only local trains have access to Nostrand Ave while the express trains would split past the junction so that half would continue as locals and the other would run express. The first option is a bit luxurious and is unlikely to happen. Would it be possible to connect the Utica Avenue like with the Fulton Street line? The important thing about the shorter option is that installing these switches could be done overnight or over a weekend and wouldnt require long term, disruptive construction. You are correct that the larger option would require shutting down service which is one reason Im in favor of the smaller option. 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Well then what are we waiting for? C, the yard that would be built over the bus depot would be able to host more trains (btw can it be named Marine Park Yards or Mill Basin Yards) seeing that it is smaller. Youre less likely to be the goat. Is it correct that Culver has connections in place for the 8th Ave line? Its smaller for the same reason an Olds Runabout is smaller than a Model T: the technological limitations of the day. Though Id suggest building a peak direction track on Utica Similar to the 6 and 7 lines. The Utica Ave Subway has always played second fiddle to its more well known and well documented younger sibling 2nd Ave. Meaning if the Livonia Yards are overcrowded and a train-related incident happens at Franklin;blocking off service to Manhattan, trains can run between New Lots and Flatbush and/or Kings Plaza and Flatbush. Small black tile captions reading "UTICA" in white lettering on a black background run below the trim line at regular intervals. But boring tunnels is much more common these days. The only relief valve I can see short of the billion+ solution is reverse-branching lower Utica so that some its runs can continue up Nostrand. That leaves the Broadway portion Its got limitations now, sure. Quickly checking the map I see the same 6 Use upside down flying buttresses (floating buttresses?). Nice ideas so far! Touring: F train to East Broadway. But I think it was for a different one than the four you give. This leaves the possibility of resurrecting the Worth St Line, a branch off the 8th Ave local that would split south of Canal St and head east via Worth St and East Broadway. I would love to see a post about a light rail system , Not very sure about the constraints of light rail (besides politicians lol) But can a three way switch be built between Nostrand, President, and Franklin? Unlike the Utica Ave stretch, the Flatbush Ave structure would run along the center of the street on a modern concrete viaduct (similar to what the AirTrain uses long Van Wyck Expressway). The line was proposed to cut across town to Columbus Circle, one avenue block away. The station listings are extremely far apart to where it barely serves any local communities on the route. This would be the beginning of the IND plan which would ultimately propose extending a branch of the 6th Ave Subway through Williamsburg and down Utica Ave. No spidery stairwells going to the ground. Also, Utica Av(or Malcolm X Blvd because a BMT Line is past Fulton St)becomes smaller past Fulton St, so instead of one lane being ripped up, a whole street would be ripped up, causing the B46 to be detoured north of Fulton St. An elevated line would be a bad idea too, because north of Fulton St is just 2-story Pre-War homes, and the rooftops are around the same height as the tracks. A lower cost solution to your previous tph, equal to 16 A Div. The MTA studied [PDF] rebuilding this junction in 2009 and came up with two plans. Looking at Census data based on commuting patterns of riders coming from the two zip codes along Utica Ave the primary destination for most riders is downtown Brooklyn with Midtown West second. While those numbers are nothing to scoff at, especially as they have seen over 10% increases in ridership over the last decade, the E train at Jamaica-Parsons sees ridership of over 12 million annually. Part of why I wanted to write this post was to point out the downsides to going with an IND style Utica Ave over IRT. [19][20], In 1981, the Metropolitan Transportation Authority listed the station among the 69 most deteriorated stations in the subway system. When you were envisioning your Montague Tunnel connection did you explore a Hanson Place route as an alternative? This would also take relief off of the (B)/(Q) trains to the west. But MTA really needs to build an extension down Utica because its very dense, very isolated, and very cheap to build. Barring a brand new line paralleling the EPL and Fulton, which wouldnt make sense as long as capacity can still be raised on those lines, the Fulton Street line looks like the only way to ever realize that greater capacity. Precinct: (718) 735-0611 Community Affairs: (718) 735-0634 Crime Prevention: (718) 735-0658 - Jason Marsman - E-mail: jason.marsman@nypd.org - Kelvin Vidal - E-mail: kelvin.vidal@nypd.org Domestic Violence Officer: (718) 735-0600 - E-mail Youth Coordination Officer: (718) 735-0657 . Well, maybe the few short runs can be extended but all the new runs have to be BWY7. Using the IRT as the basis for a Utica Avenue line is much more feasible. IRT 4 or 5 express will have higher headways than Fulton anyway you slice it so the smaller cars are offset with more of them. Environmentalists wont sue over the clouds of dust raised. There were blocked stairways up from the platform level to the upper level that were removed during the station's renovation. Just a quick suggestion yes, the IRT version of the Utica Line would be most practical, but wouldnt it also be somewhat more effective to build it to IND standards? Its an extremely clever plan that I and many other would have never of came up with but there are some wholes that are worth being built up. Outside fare control, there is a token booth and two street stairs, each going to either western corners of Utica Avenue and Fulton Street. Located under Eastern Parkway near Utica Avenue in Crown Heights, Brooklyn, it is served by the 4 train at all times and the 3 train at all times except late nights. Freeway-style concrete pillars. Make no little plans, Daniel Burnham is purported to have said, they have no magic to stir mens blood. Top track level Anyone bemoaning the fact that President St. and Nostrand Ave arent connected? Abandoned Mineral . On the opposite side, from Eastern Parkway to Empire Blvd, the slope descends 66 feet. To keep interlining you need to go with the complicated and expensive Rogers rebuild and I dont think that the service pattern justifies the cost. The station's two exits are located at either end. Crescent sections of the Jamaica line, clearing most but not all of the messy Eastern Parkway & Utica Avenue. Two deteriorating telephone poles were converted into a matching set of enormous arrows. Then Utica can fulfill both roles but as of now the only important section is south of Eastern Parkway. Although not in the official report, soon after it was proposed to connect 14th St to Utica Ave. The second is a simple addition of new switches which is what Im going with. If that happens, either the A or C would have to go that way. The New Lots branch of the IRT ascends to the surface right after it leaves Eastern Parkway (due very much to the terrain) and it would make sense that the IRT would have the Utica Line do the same. Remember any from of transit is only used when planning for the future such as the L train renovations and Clark tunnel reconstruction. will be as interesting and more reasonable than those from the genius The Manhattan-bound platform has its metalwork painted in golden yellow and the tiles beneath the trim line in dark blue. much cheaper and fits the mtas little goes a long way attitude. If we build to IND station size (while making easily-removable platforms extensions that allow the platforms to be disabled accessible to IRT trains) wouldnt that allow the subway to easily expand capacity once they find the money to make an IND connection or just convert the IRT to the IND gauge? Finnaly, the IRT Utica Av doesnt have the provisions for having a IND Utica Av, so either one of two plans will have to happen: 1- Build a Eastern Pkwy Station under the 3/4 and have a steep incline back up to Empire Blvd so it can be able to portal out wherever (originally I thought it was going to portal out at Empire Blvd but I guess im wrong). What do you figure the cost of the subway portion of the line to be? Whats needed for this to work, however, is the rebuilding of the Rogers Junction, the junction of the trunk and the Nostrand Ave Line at Franklin Ave. Its more of a nice-to-have thing, but all that needs to be fixed is Myrtle Interlocking and the curve at Cypress Hills, which are 1000x more cheaper. But whats your obsession with rerouting the 6th Ave Express to replace (J)/(M) trains? The victim was found. With these and the IRT provisions in place Utica Ave was always so tantalizingly close. I highly disagree with connecting SAS to Nassau. [30] In 2015, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio announced his proposal for an extension of the 3 and 4 trains down Utica Avenue. Well, thats essentially what IRT rolling stock is; its 3/4 of full size. The majority, 27, go to the Lexington Ave. services and with a few additional 4 trains that terminate after downtown Brooklyn the LEX express tracks are totally maxed out. The first plan offers the highest operational flexibility and allows a continuation of both local and express trains to access Nostrand Ave but would cost close to $1 billion and require extensive excavation. The station opened on August 23, 1920, as part of an extension of the IRT Eastern Parkway Line by the Interborough Rapid Transit Company. There seems to me to be two sections of this plan: the Worth St-South 4th-Stuyvesant Ave section and the Utica Ave section. [22] This is the easternmost underground and four-track subway station on the Eastern Parkway Line; to the east (railroad south) of here, the local tracks rises and become the IRT New Lots Line, while the express tracks end at bumper blocks just under Ralph Avenue. Im not suggesting building an extension of the Crosstown Subway or tearing down the Broadway El, that is merely a reproduction of the 1931 IND plan. Delays wont occur because of judges ordering you to change your practices to mitigate pollution or traffic effects. [12], There are four stair entrances, all on Fulton Street:[13]. want to either go to Midtown West or Midtown East. Members hailed the decision to save the station, and were encouraged by the public response to the Adirondack operation, despite its ultimate bankruptcy. These look less industrial than plain Additionally, the Fulton-Utica service would have to be local only with an awkward transfer at Utica Ave station. Jamaica Center would probably be a notch or two higher if it had been designed as terminal and could handle all E train runs. 5. NEW YORK, NY - Police are seeking a man who allegedly exposed himself and performed a 'lewd act' in the presence of a 21-year-old female subway passenger. In your next post, could you talk about a potential Fordham-Ozone Park line served by the 2nd Ave Subway? mind=the same The gritty, graffiti-ridden New York City subway system is quite a character in Joker. Thank you. And another commenter hit upon phasing. But thats how I see it. When would you see it converted to that? Atlantic-Barclays, now thats interesting. IRT Utica would run express by default and be a much quicker commute (not to mention better transfer options at Atlantic Ave.) As you stated CBTC will boost frequency a bit more but those are all other projects that need to be done first. Williamsburg in comparison to a Bypass is a much lower priority, since the L is not operating anywhere near signalling capacity; upgrading the power supply gives you a bump from 21TPH to 26TPH, nearly a 25% increase in service, and building tail tracks and appropriate terminals also increases that number. A new station would therefore have to be built below the existing 3/4 Utica Ave station before continuing south. Utica Avenue is served by the New York City Subway 's IRT Eastern Parkway Line ( 3 and 4 trains) at the Crown Heights-Utica Avenue station at Eastern Parkway [1] and by the IND Fulton Street Line ( A and C trains) at the Utica Avenue station on Fulton Street. Keep in mind that they wouldnt remove the existing switches so that trains from Brooklyn College could still reverse at Franklin and access New Lots or Utica. Anyway: I think that lots of expansions where there is no ROW to just place cars on, instead could be put into service as light rail (granted there are no obstacles like narrow roads and triggered politicians who cause everything to stop working) could be a nice supplement to the subway (free transfers too!) [7] The outer track walls are made of tile and have a maroon trim line with a dark maroon border. As for late nights and weekends why not just extend the 6? Now most likely a shuttle will run service between Utica and New Lots and Flatbush and President. You could replace Lafayette Ave with a new station that joins the fray and then shares track with the R. All tunnels built after the original subway were built to B Division standards. Just an idea! Like Court Square-Court Square awkward? Median not wide enough for a true viaduct? [7] The first section opened on January 9, 1908, extending the subway from Bowling Green to Borough Hall. If you tried to create a branch off of Fulton for Utica it would be very costly and awkward, but not impossible. From the South 4th St station to Eastern Parkway is another 3 miles which would parallel the existing J/M/Z trains. And that nine has the corresponding capacity of 12 A Division runs. [14] The line was to be extended along Flatbush Avenue and Eastern Parkway to Buffalo Street as a four-track subway line, and then along East 98th Street and Livonia Avenue to New Lots Avenue as an elevated two-track line, with provisions for the addition of a third track. blend into hilly terrain. It would reduce the need for bus transfers. This station has two fare control areas, one at either end. In California money itd be about 2. 31, is a three-track elevated line. Another weekend or overnight wont kill us! Youve presented an excellent case for ruling out Williamsburg. The 2004 artwork here is part of a series called Good Morning and Good Night. Today, police released a photo of the suspect, who is still at large. from those two subway stations Even the New Lots branch doesnt have a third track and you could argue it needs one more than this. Kings Plaza isnt downtown Flushing so you arent going to have that demand. The Utica Avenue station is an express station on the IND Fulton Street Line of the New York City Subway. 5 all times except late nights, 6. Theres only four local stations and it could probably crawl through three of them in a skip-stop with the C. You were playing around with skip-stop on Nostrand; maybe itd make sense here. Close by to where youd have your subway portal at Kings Highway is the Bay Ridge branch. The point of Utica Ave is that riders are trying to get downtown so who would ever ride the 4 all the way out just to switch to the A when they could have just gotten on the A at the first place. But this does not deal with the immediate needs of those that live along Utica Ave. Building an extension of the IRT could be opened long before the section through northern Brooklyn and would have immediate benefits by serving more riders with direct service rather than requiring transferring. This is the level of transit that buses provide for a fraction of the cost. Where do you get 10TPH from? Looking at a modern take on IND plan, since the Chrystie St Connection rerouted the 6th Ave express trains over the Manhattan Bridge and the extra local service to Williamsburg, there is no extra capacity along 6th Ave to connect with the new line. Im more in support of an IRT Utica Avenue subway and now you made a Rogers Junction plan clear. There is a very good argument to be made that building the Worth St-Williamsburg section would alleviate traffic on the L train and serve a growing jobs center around Hudson Sq in lower Manhattan. 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