must be counterfiets? All vely, vely cheap. They are both in California but have great ratings, 99.9 and 99.8. Ive disputed the charge with my cc company and am awaiting resolution. I have bought a lot of golf equipment over the years thru Ebay, but (as far as I know)it has all been legit except for my recent purchase. DOnt put them all in the same basket but be on your guard. Name Server: But wait! And despite traditional sounding names to America, their spelling and grammar seems like it might be someone whose primary language is not English but is writing in English, kind of like those spam emails you get telling you that you inherited a million dollars, so just contact Honorable Barrister Jonathon Dawes or whomever. If you think it does then consider what kind of player the clubs would be suited too. This horse has already been beat to death in that I discovered fairly quickly that the clubs were counterfeit. Having problems sending them back. Both sites sell cheapest golf cubs in da world and amongst cheapest in Shenzhen; send your money now. http://www.golfbidder.co.uk/golf-clubs.aspx, The company is in london but it seems to be legit. I think it about sums up the hundreds of bogus online golf retailers around the world. The 5Banger ~ Mavrik SZ | Motore F3 7x. Please do your research next time. That day I became an immediate Miura 'snob'. Counterfeit Ping G30 Driver. Nah, probably not. We do try our best to make everyone happy. The enforcement and legal aspects of these companies intellectual property costs millions in U.S. taxpayer money, but that is how the profits of these companies are protected. proshop-JJ sells FAKE golf equipment! I only buy components and clubs built in the USA. The fact they say they will send as gift to avoid the import tax alarms me as this is clearly against the law. My friend brought it a year ago and that set look good quality. Most of these are the top retailers, but not Maruman and Tourstage, yet this list seems to be common amongst all the questionable sites you have listed. Fairhaven, MA 02719 http://www.globalgolf.com The fact that the item was locatedFulton, Maryland and shipping from an overseas location caught my eye after I had paid and aroused some suspension. Tech Postal Code: 351100 KuiemQuiem did the transaction and is still pending, I purchased a set of x-24s for 318.00 on 2-25 at a website called usgolfsale.com. How do i know that a number given to me on a G15 is ok not fake, has anyone heard anyhing bad about http://www.perfectoutdoorgame.com am about to order some clubs from them. I have taken the time to read all of the posts and am astounded that some many people are asking the same thing- is this club offered at 25% of the normal retail price a fake-duh? Tech Phone: +86.05946277277 Daiwa Iron Set ONOFF (2022) AKA Regular SMOOTH KICK MP-522I 5 pieces Hi. Seriously, Vic, use your brain. The grips smelled like tires. But it seems like those should have already been registered. Welcome your purchase.. /** Notice the sharp lines on back, faked texture on the cutouts in the back and the excessive toe-heel camber as can be seen in relation from the sole to the bottom groove of the clubs. We are sincere to cover this matter amicably and easily. Does anybody know if http://www.wholesalegolfmall.com are genuine? If there is a brand logo, many times the paint fill will be coming out and the font will be slightly different. Nick, 4-PW composition. GO TO YOUR LOCAL GOLF STORE AND PAY RIGHT PRICE GOLF CLUB! Tour issue clubs have a serial number that starts with a T. www.taylormadegolf.com What do you think? Further to my original post re http://www.golfleading.com and my dispute via Paypal. Pasted as rich text. China blocks all inbound queries, another clue. The only thing I can add about Golfetail.com is that when I sent them an email asking if their Callaway X-20 irons would pass an inspeciton by Callaway they stated quite matter of factly that they WOULD pass an official inspection by Callaway as genuine. Too many blatant red flags. China company, total rip. I repeat; YOU CANNOT BUY GOLF CLUBS STRAIGHT FROM THE FACTORY., IF THE GOLF CLUBS ARE FROM CHINA, THEY ARE FAKE!!!. Even the motore f3 shaft was a fake as confirmed by a legit Titleist seller. I also read quite a few good reviews about the company. What is your opinion on them? Just to add to my last post. Daisy 00:13:10 If you run your fingers across the bottom of the putter you will feel the edge of the weight. If you really want good quality golf club, go to your local golf store and they will give you fitting and measure and you buy the golf club from them! Hello! So, because it is too expensive to pay American workers and use American materials, the Chinese economy will reap the bulk of the benefit of the golf club manufacturing market (excepting U.S. marketing and sales reps, etc. I advise you to get the TM R9 spec from their website, do a magnet and other testing ( paintwork on clubsole etc ) if theyre fake, go back and get a full refund. I sent the clubs to Mizuno in Atlanta to have them checked. Nicole 20:22:33 The way I look at it now If I cant afford Retail prices I cant afford the Clubs. We have seen many counterfeit drivers and most of the time the club sits open or closed when at address. The reply stated that they WOULD pass an official inspection by Callaway as genuine. So now Im wondering if they are fakes. Miura PI-401 irons: ClubTest 2021 review - Golf Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com Dont be a foul like I was and buy from Sunogolf. Admin FAX Ext. Its called being an accessory to the crime. I have been making custom clubs for over 5 years. But the looks were spot on. Admin Name: Chen Sun Im desperate to get these quick quick, so just send me back any change with my clubs ok? You can also try the magnet test on your driver to see if it will stick. And, if you are writing at other places, I would like tel: all of our clubs are the OEM products with the same matrial,same quality and performance as the official ones The appearance and quality is as the same as the authentic one, except no authority and the quality assurance of the brandcompany. R11 drivers for 259.99. are these knock offs? How about knock offs? I do have 2 questions for you if you do not mind. Has anyone investigated as to whether these guys are legitimate? TGIB Marketing they arrived 3 days later with the plastic wrap still on the heads in separate boxes. Bought an Adams DHy hybrid at $99.99 ($100.00 off) and what was $70.00 off what most are selling at their reduced cost as of May 2014. I am left handed and looking to get a set of irons. Cleveland The company i contacted was easterntrade.com.cn. I was looking at buying another iron set on ebay and I found a couple different listings on there that are selling ping and taylormade iron sets that seemed ridiculously low. Would be a great post for us to do. Happy golfing . I myself got counterfeit golf clubs however I thought I had done all I could to ensure it didnt happen to me Genuine, Serial No, Photos, emails and checked counterfeit lists even spoke to a client who purchased them prior to me and he confirmed the where genuine or so he thought, what I received was far from genuine and to cut a long store short theres no money refund its gone just a settlement figure and they cut you off once you start to make a noise. http://www.onlineeconomygolf.com/Cheap-Callaway-X-22-Irons-Sale-11.html. Does anyone know how I check it is legit? let me know if you are still interested in our clubs Upon review, some of the warning flags mentioned here are present questionable grammer, no phone number or physical address, no customer reviews. 059186988288 fax: 059186988288 Higher end putters like the Scotty Cameron below are made of a softer metal and will have a differentfeel than the counterfeit. The numerical font. Ah well, Ill just sell them on ebay when they arrive. is this stores sell authentic clubs? So the offer of cheap gear on Ebay and the net is understandably attractive we all want th best gear!! Are they fakes? Clue one: Free shipping. I wonder if they just suck? To me it read more like an advertisement than a worthy news story. Check out our counterfeit, Many of the major manufacturers have started putting a holographic sticker on the shaft. GREATGOLFDEALS.COM SITE INFORMATION Notice how the weights dont line up perfectly with the bottom of the sole. Miura is a relatively small forge in Japan, founded by Katsuhiro Miura. Would I be wrong in saying that they are not made in the muzuno factory? Thanks for your consideration. I also just posted a video on youtube (click here to watch) where I casually explain the history and show off the condition of these irons in hand. If there is Velcro or other closing mechanism, it will be of poor quality and many times will not work correctly. Bought plenty of items off them & never ever had a problem. I did business with 3balls and i recommend it. Is the company real and did anubody bought any golf equipment from them. Is this a real website because the prices are really low. )-: I have a high handicap. I understand that the ones on 2ndSwing are generally accepted to be authentic. I think the fakers buy/source original heads as use them as master models for casting, I have seen Epons that were 99.9% as good,but cast and polished, Having said that,would not suggest contibuting to their cause. Once you see it up against a legit driver, you know youve been fooled. authentic gear at bargain prices. Well there are many reasons why this became such a popular profession and one worth serious jail time and heavy fines. Has anyone any comment about the quality of the products they supply. Is ksouth9 a legit website, for selling quality golf clubs! Hurricane Golf (DeKalb, IL) is very legit, but they do have to abide by manufacturer rules when it comes to advertising the manufactures suggested selling price. I just won an auction for $120 from GolfBestBuy-usa. [emailprotected] Carlsbad, CA 92008 Avoiding the colors, lines, grooves or enhanced soles that other iron makers use to draw eyes to their golf clubs. i decide to believe him and found out that the seller is the head pro from a golf course in ontario and a member of the CPGA. Recently purchased what was suspose to be taylormade R11 driver for 260.00 a good price and about 30-50 less than ebay from supplycheapgolf.com website, total counterfeit had it checked out by Edwin Watts Golf store, and the only way I found out was when I went to make loft adjustment set screw would not tighten clubhead back onto shaft, and I noticied this the first day I received the club originating from China, immediately contacted website via email, phone number does not work and have been getting runaround ever since, avoid this website as it is nothing more than a fraudulent website making money selling counterfeit clubs, hope no one else gets burned like I did. please never buy their clubs. Its not often you fing the fake site with a form of contact however i found a site with a chat link, and clearly the service was so poor and DAISEY, well not sure she can speak english have a look at our lovely conversation , I 00:10:30 They are therefore made to have the same performance as the name brands. How about http://www.golfclubsequipments.com? This section will be dedicated to the differences between the way companies put serial numbers on their clubs and how to help spot counterfeit clubs. Guys that sell 2-5 clubs at a time once or twice a year. Province: Zhejiang Its not out there. Despite repeated e-mails and phone calls I have had no satisfaction. Ann 19:45:52, I am afraid not,sir,to tell the truth. I asked him what website he ordered? PS This is a great forum. In this case it looks like Edin Watts, Golfsmith and TGW are all legit. Hi Dan D i have also just been scammed by the same site topgolfmall with a set of Diablo Callaways so i to wish i had seen these type of sites first. They seem like a legit operation. hey brendon, The clubs tested very well. What a great forum. I mean, really, 1500 sets available cheap. How about gurugolf and empire-golf? Earl Ill bet you typed into your Google search engine the words golf clubs followed by words such as discount, warehouse, rockbottom, bargain, cheap, super cheap, really super cheap, really really super super cheap. That said, aesthetically the TC-201 has more in common with the pseudo-muscle back, MC-501. Also, you said they are shipping from China. Has anyone ever purchased from him? Delivery will of course be free, but even less than free, if you live in the Shenzen region. Ask them some general questions about the stuff you are looking at, like if it is authentic or not, if it is a club or set of clubs ask if you can get the serial #s off of them, and make sure to check out their feedback. Not only are the club heads counterfeit but so is everything else. might take some getting use to. Hope everyone finds this usefulPlease Pass It On. My friend really upset and cant afford with new set what he look for. Domain Registrar The main reason for this is counterfeit club makers can easily take an actual serial number and stamp it onto their clubs. Rob, http://www.salegolfcentre.com Brien glad to see your comments on the topic. Looks fake and Ive seen other forums that claim their clubs are fakes, so beware of that site! I purchased a set of Mizuno mp 52 from golfclubseller and got a reply from shoponlinewholesaler. I could not see any appreciable difference in the distance over my ancient Callaway Great Big Bertha fairway woods. Does it have a telephone number which is not just for taking orders, does it have a physical address for an actual retail outlet, does it offer free delivery throughout the world. Thank goodness I did more research!! cn, Administrative Contact: A clubmaker friend had a customer come in with some Mizuno iron heads, saying he got them from a source in Japan. Also, the site didnt have a phone number to contact and the grammar was suspect All of our staffs here are ready to be your service agent. Province: Fujian avoid the fakes, buy Adams Golf equipment. Great site with alot of information. Country: Hong Kong But if you buy from a company that is here in the US then you are at least on the right track! The other weird thing is that he is based out of Florida but my package was shipped from Alabama. It has just been in the last couple of years they have started using the laser etching process. From address, it has a thick top line and looks a little shorter heel to toe, with slightly rounded bumpers. They have discounts for bulk orders; they have 1500 sets of 3 wedge heads available. But there are signs that they tried to fix it they send you back to the order catalog!! (brand new wedges)used only the 55 in a 9 hole round last night felt great almost a i didnt swing hard enough sound coming from the iron but with great distance. I uploaded more on a the other Thread here. Id be interested in making a purchase for the irons if you could throw in a tour bag for 100 instead of the 199, would this sale be possible? Do you know anything about sunogolf.com? Remember pictures of golf clubs are easily copied from the manufacturers websites and therefore will give the appearance of the genuine article. Is rock bottom golf a good site for cheap golf clubs. Bill Street1: Xiamen Ping G400 Max driver w/Aldila Rogue 125 Silver They claim to sell Brand New Titleist AP2 for $299? I paid about $180 for the driver and $125 for the 3-wood so they werent cheap. Even though many foundries perform daily body searches with metal detectors at every entrance an exit and security cameras which watch over them like hawks during their shiftsit still wont make a difference. It takes a dumb victim for thieves to exist. A friend of mine purchased a Scotty Cameron from http://www.golfbestdiscount.com for $129. Good luck. Your game improves by playing better equipment, and that makes it more enjoyable, which makes you play more, and get better, and buy better equipment which makes you better, etc. Just recieved two woods from golfclubgate.com, didnt relise there was such a high risk of buying counterfeit clubs, just wondering if you have heard anything suspect about them. I checked out some of these sites, some of them have evolved to sell left-handed clubs probably from reading this site. I read all on this post as I knew everyone can lead to scam if they order cheap price from strange name business. The website is: http://www.buygolfsets.com, Has anyone come across http://www.golfwholesaleseller.com Material used is much stiffer and not as supple as the authentic. On many of the newer Taylormade drivers and fairway woods, the real serial number will be very light colored gray writing. prices were good on a Nike Sq. In this case Edin Watts are selling a Taylormade AeroBurner Mini Driver 2015 for $279.99 which to me looks like round about the same as other legit websites and shops so makes sense. Address : 10821 S. Ridgeway Miura Black Boron 1957 Small Blades 2i-PW, Nippon NS Pro 850 GH S-flex Miura Black Wedges 53* and 60*, Nippon NS Pro 850 GH S-flex GripMaster Club Maker's Stitchback Grips 34" Piretti Bosa, GripMaster Pistol Grip Registered Bladeocrat Outlaw Golf Association Member #7 chriswsurprenant Advanced Members 81 Feedback 0 0 0 Total Rating 0% ive just purchased a set of talormade burner 09 irons 3-sw for 361 from http://www.golfshop365.com, i wish id have found this site 2 days ago but there you go! Great job all! If held side by side with an authentic club, it will be easy to identify the counterfeit golf club because of the inferior quality. Email: Registrar Name. Go to your local golf store instead. The descriptions that were provided to help me spot these small inconsistances allowed me to easily identify, in some pictures, that the clubs were actually fake. Miura Irons Review 2023 - Are They Any Good? - The Expert Golf Website I guess the old saying, that if it is to good to be true it probably is, goes a long way here. Do you think these are also selling counterfeit products..? It seemed to good to be true so I started doing a little homework. I just found this thread after seeing a set of three Miura wedge heads for sale on eBay and wondering if they are real. If thats the case, yes it could be true that they could change the type of metals used to save cost, but it could also be true that they could just as easily make XXX extra units for every XXX amount they produce genuinely, and if thats the case, then those extra clubs would be same quality with either a bogus serial number or even without one,but that would be almost entirely impossible to know for sure. Any ideas, please feel free to let me know. Listed without the pics of the soles. Forum Thread of the Day: "Miura MC 501 Blades - Best looking clubs ever Here I come! Are they legit? Has anyone had any trouble or ordered clubs from these sites in the past? Maybe Ill get replies. I know these are older irons, so did Miura have a time when they did not stamp GENUINE on the necks? Or want the performance of a blade with the forgiveness of a cavity back? Display as a link instead, As looking below, when I checked serial number about which I ordered, it was turned out fake goods. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. I 00:16:28 does this website sell gunuine clubs, they say they are sent from the OEM factory. Just looked at golf sale offers.com looks too good to be true Ping K15 driver 119.00 What a close call and what a great ending! My friend almost bought a club from hotgolfuk. Who cares if it is a Nike, Wilson, or a club that says XXX from planet Venus. Gianni Magliocco. Thanks-edmon. To the untrained eye, the counterfeit driver (left) is not immediately apparent; the main giveaways are that the yellow paint is not quite the correct shade and the casting of the raised triangular shards within the yellow section are not as crisp and proud as the genuine article. xielunyong It is possible that they could be a counterfeit product.. Display as a link instead, They have several models with "forged" stamped in that location. We spoke to reps from every major name brand golf club company on the market and then put together a comprehensive checklist for you to use the next time you purchase something of EBAY or from any online retailer for that matter. Your previous content has been restored. Great set. Me13:29:42 Also, heads in plastic=fake. We want you to get the most out of your They have the same address in IL. xielunyong 1) It says its based in the UK, but the Contact Us section says its located in West London . Fake clubs? I will be buying again from them this holiday season. golfplayerbase.com. I forgot to bid on these which were a steal. Thanks in advance for any help you can give me They didnt try to hide the fact that they are in China. RockBottomGolf.com supports the needs for golfers around the world. P.S. They dont charge sales tax in any state the only way to get away with that is to not be located in the US. Save your time and money, do not buy online unless its from a legit seller. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Miura 1957 putter in good condition at the best online prices at eBay! Daisy 00:18:10 This is what I got from their customer care!!! thanks jim, Hey Jim, If you found a driver that you found you could hit 250-270.straight.again same result.5times, is it worth $150? tome will tell, Those look nice but you didn't answer my question :). Golfonline.co.uk. Even the torque wrench was a phonysince it didnt have a torque setting. Im just wondering whether it is legit or not, Where does Rockbottomgolf.com get its golf clubs from? Normally, I can buy gift cards for 10% to 15% off. And like we said in the article ask questions and lots of them to the sellers. They wont even deliver the missing orderDont even approach this guys! As a result counterfeiters have followed suit, but they are not putting it in the same location. These golf companies could easily greatly reduce (though admittedly, not eliminate) the losses attributable to counterfeiting by producing their products in the United States. What recourse do I have? Hi, just found this site and it is very informative. i am also trying to get my money back let me know how you do.they say you can send How was the iron set? All you could get was their on-line question and answer system which simply repeated all the stuff about OEM manufacturers etc. Golf is a mind game and if you got crap in your hands lol you play like crap pay up and enjoy the game. The counterfeiting of golf clubs actually began in Taiwan although after the Taiwanese government started enforcing intellectual-property laws and the Taiwanese wages went up compared to Chinas, the roles reversed and now China is the main producer of counterfeit golf clubs. Any comments? Thanks. Me13:24:01 Busted: Nearly 10,000 counterfeit golf clubs seized in China - Golfweek December 2017 - Started my golf journey with a set of used Taylormade M1 irons 4-PW February 2018 - Fitted for my first set- Callaway Rogue 4-PW December 2018 - End of my first full season. Hit em straight! about to buy a set of r9 irons reg steel for 539.00. hope they are real. http://www.callawaygolfpreowned.com is the way to go! As far as we know Bob that shop is legit. No physical address, misspellings on website and free delivery throughout the world. He does have a very good seller rating. The prices seem to good to be true. Glad I found this article now! Or am I just being paranoid now and should trust what the store sells?? Do you know that they actually have Taylormade M2s in the store at 100 bucks ABOVE what you can buy them for straight from Taylormade!!!!!!! The club was shipped from a San Marco, California address. By the way I finally remembered to add you guys on facebook. I think I may have just ordered some fake Callaway X-22 irons. thats it. That should be updated every day if they are legit, and it shows on both sites Tested 12-Sept. Sunogolf also have very cheap fake clubs I know I made the mistake and didnt listen to all the others that bought from them. Free shipping throughout the world, possibly even free to moon residents. Do they ship by EMS and tell you the package will be marked as GIFT? But the Good set is $311?!? http://taylormadegolf.com/shared-customer-service/customerService-authorizedonline.html I am curious to know if there is such a thing as a good deal with buying clubs online. As you can see, the graphics are a good bit different on the top shaft which is the counterfeit. They all come with steak knives that can slice through a steel pipe or a soft tomato. I really like the clubs. http://www.golfclubgate.com/ real or not NEED TO KNOW NOW! Any other question, please feel free to contact us. IP Address: 96.9.170.27 (ARIN & RIPE IP search) Miura Heads - Golf Club Heads | Tour Shop Fresno Quit playing with your [emailprotected]! Do you have questions or comments? I would really appreciate if you could provide a list of what you consider safe sites and the taboo sites. http://www.mygolfpurchase.com, prices are extremely cheap and the person you can talk to can barely speak english, suspect the clubs are fake so beware everyone! $650 tax in (on top; they threw in a 24pk Srixon AD333 and 24pk Bridgestone E6+ $45 value) the typhoon in guangzhou. if theyre knock-offs theyre really good. For Luis. Classic blades made for purists, MB101 irons embody the Miura philosophy in both performance and appearance. Come on man, WAKE UP! Do they do steak knives? Please rest assured to purchase from us. Browse MacGregor's clubs, bags and outerwear. Starting to get the picture? I had my wakeup call and I am going out today to GOLFTOWN to look on the spot for some resonable clubs. Great Article! clientTransferProhibited Registrant Street1: 112-114 Des Voeux Road,Central,HongKong I only paid $389. Go get fitted from a golf professional that knows what they are doing. the typical service jobs that are all that remain for Americans). There's a good chance that fake miuras are sold on ebay/aliexpress/dhgate that have no visually discernible difference from legit ones. Those 201's are super clean! A2C2 Counterfeit Parts Testing.